the country is polarized. barak obama, however, has made it worse. >> in what way? >> i think he's a partisan. he's an ideological partisan and we see it on everything. obamacare being the biggest example where no republican ideas, no republican votes. only straight party line vote. you see it with the senate changing the rules to limit republican power. he's all for that. so this is a president who talks about uniting the country, but when push comes to shove, he only chooses one side of every argument and therefore, the country is more divided as a result of his presidency than it was before. >> i can't tell you how many times i've heard people say, it seems like he's pitting one part of america against the other. you would hate to think that's true, but you look at the evidence and it does suggest that. >> look, it's red against blue, of course, but class warfare as well. it's about the wealthy -- he clearly has a chip on his shoulder about wealth. he doesn't mind taking wealthy people's money for his own campaign, but you get a sense he's really -- he really doe